I am honored to announce the first interview for the blog has taken place with a musician I admire very much. Thom Wasluck, the sole driving force behind the vast soundscapes and brutally honestly lyrics behind Planning For Burial was nice enough to have a chat with Have You Heard That New. Thom gives some excellent insight into his early days, touring, work with Dan Barrett, and some new details on his upcoming LP. Check it out below!
TJ: So you have a tour with SANNHET and King Woman coming
up. Are you excited to tour since it’s such an infrequent process for you? Or
is it kind of an anxious endeavor?
Thom: I feel like I
usually do a lot more mini-tours. I haven’t been touring lately so I’m really
excited. I love these two bands. King Woman is amazing. SANNHET is amazing. The
people in the bands, we're all friends we talk all the time. Being on tour with
people who you’re comfortable is a lot of fun.
TJ: And that’s a bit how your relationship with Deafheaven
is too correct?
Thom: The thing I
like about playing shows with Deafheaven is I have been following them since
before Deathwish. We were trying to get them to do a split with me for my
record label Music Ruins Lives before the Deathwish thing happened. I love
catching up with them and try to see them whenever they’re in town.
TJ: I know the fans can expect to hear
“Desideratum” tracks
as well as some new stuff but what about
“Leaving”? The album did just get
repressed after all.
Thom: I pull out
those songs once in a while live. The difference is “Leaving” I never planned
on touring live. The way I like to play live the songs from “Leaving” don’t
always work. I’ll do droney versions of some of those songs, but a lot of the
stuff isn’t meant to be played live. It’s rare. Maybe “Humming Quietly” will
get played. I was actually playing “Being a Teenager and the Awkwardness of
Backseat Sex” in my room yesterday. A lot of the stuff is just really old and
was written when I was 22-23 years old. I’m 31 now you know? A lot of these
shows will open with a droney version of some of those songs from “Leaving”
though so I guess in a way it is happening.
TJ: Going back to that time, talk about how you hooked up
with Dan Barrett and
Enemies’ List for that “Leaving” release.
Thom: It was the
early days of Twitter. I would just talk to Dan Barrett on Twitter. I was a fan
of Have a Nice Life already and “Leaving” was already done when I was listening
to them. I thought the label was cool. We had similar ideas about what the
project should be I think. This one day I e-mailed “Leaving” to Dan and he
responded, “Wow I want to put this out.” So it was a product of just being
friends and chatting with Dan from time to time.
TJ: I’d like to hear more about the specifics of how your
tours come about? Since your performances and albums are all just Thom is
that how your coordinate your tours as well? Does The Flenser help you out at
all or is Planning For Burial’s tours entirely Thom?
Thom: For the most
part I do all the booking myself through friends. “Hey do you know where I can
play?” That sort of thing. It’s mostly through friends. This one an actual
agency was involved because we’re all bands on The Flenser label and we’re all
friends so that’s how that worked. Usually I have to connect with friends
though and do house shows.
TJ: Ever considered expanding the project to multiple
members for your live sound? Speaking of Dan Barrett I know one of the many
reasons he did not want to tour after “Deathconciousness” was the struggle to
get the live sound up to par with the album. Is that ever a concern of yours?
Thom: It’s always
going to be Thom. Always. It’s not freedom to me otherwise. It’s totally my schedule
and when I want to do things. I enjoy having that autonomy.
Just for the record
on Have A Nice Life and touring I don’t think it’s ever going to happen because
in 2011 we were working on Giles Corey and I got an e-mail about practicing and
playing live with them. Dan wanted me to play second guitar, but it never
really came together. There was a lot of talk like “oh lets get together here
and work on stuff.” Now Dan is super busy with his family and work. Its going
to be hard to get everyone together in Connecticut to practice. Years ago it
could have happened. I don’t want to say it will never happen, but right now I
don’t see it.
TJ: You recently tweeted about making SANNHET listen to Marilyn
Manson’s Anti-Christ Superstar while on tour? Were you a fan of his growing up?
What was appealing about him?
Thom: To this day and
I’m almost 31 years old , that is tied for #1 album of all time for me. It’s a
huge influence. I was in 3rd grade when “Portrait for an American
Family” came out and I was into it because my friend’s older brother was really
into that scene. For the most part I’ve always been a really big fan of his
work and I thought the new album (The Pale Emperor) was great too.
TJ: Alright I’m looking forward to the split you do with
Manson next year then. I know you’re in the process of the third LP. How is
that coming along?
Thom: I haven’t been
working on it for the last month or so. I’ve been kinda rusty on playing my set
so I had to warm up and practice. I don’t sit down and write stuff really
traditionally. The songs just kind of come naturally to me. A lot of times I’ll
throw away some of the stuff I work on. I have 4 tracks recorded and three
songs if that makes sense. One song is going to be two tracks.
TJ: That sort of leads into my next question then. Can we be
expecting another shorter 5 track album or something a bit longer?
Thom: This one is
already at four songs and that’s just side A. This one is going to be a bit longer. That two track song will be even
longer than “Golden”.
TJ: Does it have a title?
Thom: A title is in mind.
I’m pretty sure of it. Really sure of it, but it could still change so I don’t
want to say just yet.
TJ: The key subject matter of LP3 is going to be your issues
with substance abuse. First of all congratulations on your sobriety. What made
you decide to abstain and how difficult has the process been?
Thom: The biggest
part of the process is just to cool the fuck down and to prove that I can do
it. I did it cold turkey. I just said, “Nope I’m done and that’s it.” I think
it was a product of boredom. I moved back to my home town where I don’t really
know anyone anymore. I go to work I come home and get really blackout drunk for
7 days a week for months. I was writing about this topic a lot prior to my
sobriety but I had a moment where I couldn’t remember a drive home from the bar
after work. I went with these co-workers of mine. That was the turning point
for me. It’s important for me to clear this up because people might think the
album is about a relationship but it’s really about this period of my life that
involved boredom and drinking.
TJ: Do you think your new found sobriety will influence the
album’s themes or the Planning For Burial sound in any way? if not on this
album perhaps the next?
Thom: This is kind of
a one-off thing. I don’t know. When “Leaving” was recorded and done, and I
don’t think a lot of people know this, but I was straight edge till about 27.
The drinking itself never impacted the writing. Maybe on live performances to
loosen me up. I wrote about it because it became a problem.
TJ: I’ve now asked a couple questions in a row about the
Planning For Burial sound so I want you to elaborate on what that is exactly a
little bit more. I’ve heard your project referred to as shoegaze, post-metal,
doom metal, ambient, gloom-gaze. Does a genre label matter to you? What genres
would you place Planning For Burial under?
Thom: I don’t really
care. I don’t choose any of them. They don’t matter to me. Its up to the
listener. One of my favorite bands is pg.99. They were always called punk rock
but those guys are clearly part of the screamo scene. Another band I think of
is A Silver Mt. Zion. They have that album “This is Our Punk Rock”. That album
is obviously not a punk album, but it is the essence of punk. They are doing
what they want how they want. I consider myself a punk artist in that way, but
also a blues artist. I mean when you think about blues it’s a lot of repetition
and letting your feelings out. I’m not calling myself a blues artist in terms
of genre, but in terms of the essence of what blues is about.
TJ: Talk about your obsession with pedals and new pedal
boards. Anyone who follows you on twitter knows you’re always scouring the
internet for new pedals and buying new pedals. What are some of your favorites
or what pedals are key to the Planning for Burial sound?
Thom: I have a 10
dollar Electro Overdrive going into a Little Big Muff that really give me my
distinct sound. I actually do not use any reverb. My reverb is so low in the
mix it just gives the pieces a little more body. The other keys are a Carbon
Copy Delay sound and the Boss Space Echo which is awesome. I use that for
longer tap tempo type stuff.
TJ: So you were a fan of that
Prurient album that came out
this year. Any Other albums catch your eye so far this year? Looking forward to
anything?
Thom: I’m not sure
what exactly is coming out in the future. One album that’s really cool is “Drowse-SoonAsleep”. It’s by this guy Kyle Bates from Portland. I played a house show with
him when he was in a full band. Post-rocky metal kind of stuff. We kept in
contact we’d talk here and there. I love the SANNHET and King Woman records
from this year too.
TJ: Any small-time acts from Pennsylvania or otherwise you
think fans of yours should be on the look-out for right now?
Thom: They’re not
small time but Title Fight was on the outskirts of where I’m at and I loved
their record from this year. A friend of mine from Ohio does an industrial
ambient project. “Witness To The Flood” by Nyodene D is what it’s called. I’m all
about it right now.
TJ: Before I go got to ask if there are any other details
you want to share about LP3 before I let you go? When can fans expect details
or a possible single?
Thom: It’s all too
early to tell. I have four tracks recorded right now, but I’m worried about
their flow. I don’t know what is going to be saved for the record. The plan is
the record is completed and handed into the label by December 31st.
Thank you Thom Wasluck for the exciting information and insight as well as being an overall awesome person. Try to catch him on tour at one of the dates below!
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Tom K.
5/21/2015